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barbara-o
#1 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2010 7:50:38 PM Quote
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Hi,

In the next couple of weeks and if all going well, I hope to start Anti-TNF treatment soon. However, I've had difficulties with my liver whilst on MTX and Sulph and was wondering if any of you have experienced similar problems whilst on Anti- TNF drugs?

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Barbara
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#2 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2010 8:30:38 PM Quote
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Hi Barbara,
I'm on mtx and humira. I have had problems with mtx, and like you with sulpha, in the past where my liver enzymes have been raised but have been able to go back on the mtx, although I only take 15mg now.
I've been on humira about 10 months and no liver problems at all.
Hope you get anti-tnf soon, it has helped me a lot.

Doreen xx
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#3 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2010 9:23:53 PM Quote
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Thanks Doreen, this is like music to my ears ThumpUp

Love,

Barbara
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#4 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2010 9:51:54 PM Quote
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I agree with what Doreen says Barbara. The drug that played havoc with my liver was leflunomide, and I had to stop it after about 6 months.

I take humira - and only humira - and it has made a huge difference to my quality of life and to my mobility.

Good luck with anti-TNF - I hope you can start it. I was in despair until humira, and I`ve been on it over two years now.

Kathleen x

PS There`s no alcohol ban with it either!!

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#5 Posted : Monday, January 11, 2010 10:10:24 PM Quote
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all best barbara
not on anti tnf on methotrexate and currently still having liver problems so at 15 mg.

t care hun may anti tnf do wodners for u.
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:55:31 AM Quote
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That's great news, Barbara.

Lots of love
Jeanxxx
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#7 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 12:26:52 PM Quote
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Liver- FINE on the anti-tnfs here Barbara

MTX- liver wobbled at the higher doses.

All "normal" now though

Jenni xx
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#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 4:57:32 PM Quote
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Hi Barbara,

I've been on the anti tnf Enbrel for almost 2 years now. After 20 years of RA, its the most effective drug I've had. I've had no liver problems whatsoever, or any side effects really. Unlike with MTX I do not need monthly blood tests and as Kathleen pointed out, alcohol is allowed!

Hope you start your anti tnf treatemtn soon and it works wonders for you.

Diane x
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 5:16:02 PM Quote
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Thank you all so much, I'm now beginning to feel quite excited about the treatment, and hopeful that it will work. My mind has been put at rest, at least for now, that an Anti-TNF drug is unlikely to effect my liver (fingers X!).

My next appointment with the clinic is next week Tuesday and I'm hoping they'll be able to give me a start date for my treatment. The only thing I will have to do between now and the appointment is NOT to google about the side effects of these drugs Smile

Love,

Barbara
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#10 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 7:02:49 PM Quote
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I agree with you there Barbara! Read the leaflet once and then forget about it!
Everything crossed for you that you can get onto the anti-tnfs at your next appointment.

Doreen xx
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#11 Posted : Tuesday, January 12, 2010 10:50:26 PM Quote
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I'm praying for you Barbara and also praying that your fingers do not tap in anti-tnfs to the web...PLEASE try not to! LOL

Just have another glass of wine to distract you or write me a REALLY long e/mail!

Much love and roll on Tues!

Amanda
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#12 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 1:07:16 PM Quote
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Amanda you must be a glutton for punishment....LOL LOL
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#13 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 6:40:19 PM Quote
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Hi Barbara

Just curious as i know like me you had liver issues with mtx. what other dmard did you try before going on anti-tnf? As I was put on hydroxyc and I wonder if this is a dmard. Its still early days with the hydroyc but if no improvement then the top up with another dmard is on the cards. I couldnt believe when i had just got over the anxiety of possible liver damage that the consultant was suggesting I add it on top. OhMyGod

Wishing you all the best with your new treatment ThumpUp

Mari
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#14 Posted : Wednesday, January 13, 2010 7:07:35 PM Quote
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Hi Mari,

I was on Sulp first, then MTX, and refused to take hydroc, as I had taken it before for 6 months as an anti-malarial, and it did not suit me. I also thought that having had problems with the 2 other drugs (sulf & MTX) that hydroc would also cause problems with my liver and my rheumy tended to agree. To meet one of the criterias for Anti TNF, I think a patient has had to have failed at least 2 DMARDS,.hydroc I believe is also a DMARD.

I take Milk Thistle a herb to protect my liver as there is a history of non alcohol related fatty liver disease in my family, for my sins I've also got oneSad

Love,

Barbara
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#15 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2010 7:12:18 PM Quote
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Hi Barbara,

I have just posted re Milk thistle on another thread (can't remember which one now!LOL)...I sent this;

http://www.vortexhealth.net/milk_thistle.html

A nice reminder how wonderful a herb it is! I am seeing my herbalist tomorrow and am very excited- a whole hour alone and a good look around the herb shop she works above!

Love,
Amanda
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#16 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2010 7:36:58 PM Quote
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Thanks Amanda, it's a lot cheaper then the one I take. I've now been told that I shouldn't drink much wine eitherSad Sad, and wont do.

Love,

Barbara
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#17 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2010 7:39:34 PM Quote
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Does that mean one bottle per night instead of two? (off to hide)
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#18 Posted : Friday, January 15, 2010 9:52:42 PM Quote
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Oh this IS serious news, Barbara....does champagne count?

LOL

Much love always,
Amanda
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#19 Posted : Sunday, January 17, 2010 9:23:41 PM Quote
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Ello!

Been on Humira alone since 2006 and bloods have always been fine. No side effects at all and joints been brilliant. Best thing thats happened to me since it all started. I very rarely take painkillers either. Usually only for the winter aches im sure we all get when its a wee bit chilly! Good luck with your treatment.

xoxox

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#20 Posted : Tuesday, January 19, 2010 4:14:31 PM Quote
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I've been on Enbrel for about 3 years, no probs with liver. Had probs with MTX before that though.

Hope it works well for you.

Lyn
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